Tranceformer - A Portrait of Lars von Trier Page #4

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the streets

and people lived in harmony.

She was a communist and had

realized the eastern bloc

was problematic.

But Yugoslavia was borderline.

She was shown around

on an official visit.

It was the ideal society

on this earth.

Totally idealistic...

And now she's dead,

God be praised.

Just look at the disintegration

there,

in relation to her impression...

What l, at least at the beginning

of my career, played a lot with

were these people who're very

sure of what's right

and what action to take.

You can be sure that when

they've done the right thing,

it's gone wrong

and they also did it badly.

In reality, if you talk of a theme,

then perhaps it is...

...self-irony.

At the moment I have loads of

different phobias of various types.

The instant I don't turn my

energies to the creative side

I turn it to thousands of

anxiety inducing things.

I find it difficult that, just

in order to exist, I'm forced to...

It puts a lot of artistic

practice into a certain perspective

if the whole thing doesn't

express an inner need which...

To communicate something.

Conversely,

it's an expression of survival.

He's afraid of one thing,

then another.

But the instant he sits

even at a mixing desk,

he becomes totally relaxed,

is calm.

And, I know when we...

I called him just recently,

this speaks of a side of him

we don't often think of,

the poet von Trier.

I called and said, "How are you?"

"Not so good..."

"What do you mean?"

"No, it's my cancer."

"But, you don't have cancer."

"No, but I believe..."

"But we all do.

I do every morning."

"Yes, but now I'm over it."

"How?"

"I bought a kayak."

"A kayak, but it's cold, you can't"

"But as soon as I'm in it,

the anxiety goes.

"I have to keep my balance."

I said, "It's part of the secret

for you and me."

"0ur real kayak, that's

your film work and my acting."

"It's our kayak, it's how

we keep balanced."

A set always has a reverse side.

There's always loads of tape

and it's put together

with old nails.

But it looks like gold

from the front.

And in some way,

it's the same with actors.

They look great when they're

walking around, but they all have..

...these people behind the actors.

They're put together with tape.

It's a...Making film is really

maintaining a mask.

Consequently, film is suddenly

a startlingly superficial product.

And perhaps it's what it is

in reality.

A very superficial product.

It's no worse off for that.

You can perhaps use this

to describe something

which expresses sincerity.

-Stellan.

-Yes.

What did you see it on.

Breaking the waves

was filmed

in one of the largest studios

in Copenhagen.

But in this cavernous studio,

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