DEFCON: The Documentary Page #6

of people everywhere, but what I hadn't

realized is that there is really a lot

of stuff that goes on on the back end

to keep it running like clockwork.

That's what makes DEF CON so exciting.

It's super organic, is the way I see it.

If you're inflexible, it doesn't work

with DEF CON because there's too many

people and you'll just break, and

that's just the reality of it.

I always joke for me it's an opportunity

to spend 4 days out of the year

not caring about computers

or computer security.

Everybody's Christmas, New Year's, Birthday,

Anniversary, wrapped up into one, for hackers.

It's an experience that's not like anything

that anybody has described because it's

kind of something you can

make what you want out of it.

You can show up and you can just go to

talks and you can sit there and get that

out of the conference or you can show up

and just party. You can show up and hang

out in your hotel room with a bunch of friends.

When it comes down to it,

you're the driver of the experience. It's not

a pony show where you can just, you know,

sit down in a seat and let it unfold before you.

The more active you become

inside the con the

more fun you can have.

For me, I think it's more social.

Mainly, for me, it's just a lot of close

friends that I get to meet once a year

because of the diversity of where

they all live in the United States.

So this is kind of like a meeting point.

Go out there, be social, just run into

people and say "hi" and just strike up a

conversation because you will

meet interesting people here.

It's fantastic, everybody is friendly. I

can sit down and talk to anybody and I

just ask them "what do you do" and they're

happy to tell me about what kind of

employment they do or the hobbies that they're in.

It's just striking up

conversations. That's

my personal favorite.

It's a combination of the people who I run into

at DEF CON and just sort of the atmosphere.

It's like a giant party that doesn't

want to end but there is a lot of

really smart people in one place and it's

just, there is really no other place like it.

The first qualification, if you will, to

be a vendor at DEF CON is "how are you"

"providing back to the hacker community

at large." A lot of money goes through

there. It's kind of staggering. One thing

that we try and do is most of these

guys, most of the vendors if you walk

around that room, this isn't their primary

business. These are people that are in the community.

Take a look at these guys.

They're only doing this this time of year

and it's only to provide something to the

community that they think is neat.

Those are the kind of folks that

definitely get a priority when I'm

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