By Sidney Lumet Page #3

open your mouth again. I was only trying to tell you. [music playing] SIDNEY LUMET: If you

asked me specifically, when you did "12

Angry Men," were you interested in justice system? Absolutely not. I was interested in

doing my first movie, and I was very impressed

that Henry Fonda wanted me to direct it because

he had seen something I had done Off-Broadway. It was the most obvious motives. "12 Angry Men," I think it

changed the law in England. Great. That isn't why I did it. I wasn't out to change

the law in England. Oh, this is Miss Lovelace,

Miss Eva Lovelace. She's come all the way

from Vermont to see you. How do you do, Miss Lovelace? Would you have a part

for me, Mr. Easton? I would like to start my

career under your management because I reverence the things

you've done in the theater. When you brought

the Old Vic over, I wanted to give up

"Death of a Salesman" to come here and see them,

but then we couldn't find a replacement, so I couldn't. Well where'd you do "Salesmen?" In Ordway, Vermont. Oh. SIDNEY LUMET: All I was ever

interested in was the next job, you know, and when I

got it, that was heaven. [cheers] TRAIN CONDUCTOR: Final call

for the Silver [inaudible]. So glad you could

make it, doll. So glad you could make it. TRAIN CONDUCTOR: All aboard! [horn] Come on, Kelly. She wouldn't let me go! [horn] SIDNEY LUMET: I don't

think there's really any conflict between

being really dirt poor and having a good time. BOY: Hep, hep Blacky. Five, six, seven. Come on out, Blacky. Hep, hep, Blacky. One, two, three. Hep, hep Puddinghead. Come on out, Puddinghead. I got you. You're behind the barrel. Hep, hep, KO 1,2, 3. Come here, KO. SIDNEY LUMET: You

don't know that you're dirt poor at the time. That's just the norm. Having a quarter

pound of boiled meat shredded into two pounds of

potatoes to feed the family, is-- that's the

way you ate meat. Everybody around me

lived the same way, so again, that was the norm. So you're going along

and living your life and then all of a sudden

this other exciting thing comes in, which is

work and creativity. That kid ought to

drop that junk of his. [screams] [music playing] SIDNEY LUMET: It was all

about feeding a family. During the Depression, my

sister and I shared a bed I think until I was about 11 . You buy clothes that

are too big for you so you can grow into them. You did have a toilet. You did not have a bath tub. You bathed in the kitchen. There would be the sink

and the wash basin, and that's what you

used as a bath tub. And this was every

poor kid's life. When the problem

is that desperate, everything else is a luxury--

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