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Paul and Sue had two children,

Katie and Robert.

Katie did well at school

and went on to university,

the first person

in her entire family

ever to do so.

Robert trained

as a car mechanic.

He met his wife Stacey

when they were teenagers

and now they have

five children.

So there's Lucas,

who is 9.

Then there's Ryan,

who is about to turn 7

at the end of this month.

Then there's Haley, who's just

turned 5.

And she'll start school

in the new year.

Then there's Shane,

known as Shane-o,

and he is 3 this week.

He's the joker out of

the lot of them.

If he does something

and you laugh,

he'll laugh with you,

and he loves a joke.

And then there's little Troy

that's 12 weeks old.

I look back at my grandmother

and I've taken some wonderful

lessons from her.

Grandma made us all feel that we

were her special number one,

but I think that's the secret

to being a grandparent is to

make every child feel that they

have someone that they

can relax with,

be themselves with.

Grandparents now have a really

huge part to play

in their parents' lives because

the pressure's on them

to work so much,

and grandparents fill that hole

of mum not being home every day.

I've already made them, so there

they are for the kiddies.

And your Rich likes

fairy bread.

Get some spoilers

and snakes in there.

Happy birthday,

dear Shannon

Happy birthday to you

Not you!

It's a real struggle

for them, financially.

But at the same time, like all

young kids, there's areas

we look at and go,

"We didn't have that. "

I've got 23 threepenny pieces,

and I don't know how many

ha'penny pieces I've got now.

Look, there's a whole

stack of duckies over there.

None of our kids have got

credit cards.

They don't live

a credit life, yet.

They try and pay as they go,

which is what we've

always thought,

and that's kept our head

above water, just.

We always thought if we were

unemployed or out of work,

if you own your house,

you've got a huge buffer.

And Robert's

of the same belief.

In their 20s,

Paul and Sue sold up,

bought an old van, and traveled

across Australia.

We were close together,

because we really got

to know each other and relied

on each other so much.

One of the most important

things we ever did

with our children,

we spent time with them,

and particularly when

you've got holidays.

You know, go camping with them.

Well, we went over

to visit Katie,

because she was working up in the top

end of Yorkshire on a community farm.

We were missing her.

We just didn't want

to tell her that.

Well, they miss you

when you're away.

Do you miss them?

I didn't miss them, like,

God, I wanna be around them,

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