The U.S. vs John Lennon Page #3

You're successful entertainers.

That is the thing...

It's because Americans

always ask showbiz people

what they think about this sort of...

The British, you know...

"Showbiz,"

you know how it is.

But, I mean, you've got to...

You can't just keep

quiet about anything

that's going on in the world

unless you're a monk.

Sorry, monks,

I didn't mean it.

I meant, actually...

The thing you have to

understand,

which people don't understand

necessarily about John,

is that his thought processes

were shifting.

He was in a process

of evolution.

Our society is run

by insane people

for insane objectives.

If anybody can put on paper

what our government

and the American government,

et cetera,

and the Russian, Chinese...

What they are actually

trying to do

and how with what

they think they're doing,

I'd be very pleased to know

what they think they're doing.

I think they're all insane.

I'm liable to be put away as insane

for expressing that,

that's what's insane about it.

He was engaged with the world,

and what was happening in the world

would change him.

And then, you know,

something quite

dramatic happened.

It's sort of hard to describe Yoko

because she's completely unique.

She had developed

quite a good reputation

as a conceptual artist.

In fact, she used to call her stuff

"Music of the Mind."

With my presentation

of performance art,

I was always aware that I

wanted to inspire people

and stir people

so that they can wake up.

She once told me, like,

"If half the people don't get up and leave,

I haven't done it right,"

because she wanted

to really affect people,

and affecting people sometimes

gets them very upset

if they're not used to being aware

of their feelings.

She suddenly makes them feel something,

they get angry,

and they get angry at her

for making them feel something.

I always had this dream of meeting

an artist woman, you know,

that I would fall

in love with and all that,

even from art school,

you know?

And then we met

and we were talking and that,

and then I don't know

how it happened.

You just realize that she knew

everything I knew

and more, probably,

and it was coming out

of a woman's head.

It just sort of bowled me over.

I believe

that when he met Yoko

he found the rest of his voice.

Yoko gave John this sense

or belief that he could

say and do anything

he wanted to say and do

without apology.

We crossed over into

each other's fields,

like people do

from country to pop.

We did it from

avant-garde left field

to rock and roll left field.

We tried to find a ground there

that was interesting to both of us,

and we both got excited

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