The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson Page #6

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She sat right across from me,

and she got up and she says, "I know you."

And I got up, too,

and I says, "I know you, too."

And then this button,

she had it on her left side,

popped out and it just rolled to my feet.

So one of the girls picked it up

and Sylvia says,

"No, give it to her. She's one of us."

And from that moment on,

we became very close friends.

We spoke to each other

at least twice a week.

And she was always there

for me and the community.

And I will never forget that.

When she spoke about Marsha,

there was always a tear in her eyes.

She loved Marsha, and she said that

that was our mother.

What's been going on

with the Marsha P. Johnson case?

There seems to be conflicting evidence

on the last time she was seen.

Randy said he last saw her on the second.

-[Marsha] Thank you very much, doll.

-[man] My pleasure.

[Victoria] And then someone reported

seeing her on the night of the fourth.

And the body was found on the sixth.

So we're gonna ask more questions

of people who knew her

or reported seeing her during that time.

And that's what we're trying to find out.

We'll get to the bottom of it.

Okay.

[line ringing]

[busy signal beeping]

[line ringing]

[automated voice] Please leave a message

after the tone. When--

[line ringing]

[Daniel Massanova] Can I help you?

Yes. May I speak to Daniel Massanova?

That's me. What's the matter?

What's up?

Daniel, my name is Victoria Cruz.

I work for the Anti-Violence Project.

I'm working on a reopened case

from 1992...

-What was the name of the victim?

-Marsha P. Johnson.

Are you talking

about the girl off the water?

Yes.

Yeah, that was Jimmy Abreu's case.

Jimmy is retired like I am from the NYPD.

Okay, you wouldn't happen

to have his number, would you?

No, I don't.

I'm trying to get in contact

with a James Abreu.

[woman 1] I'm not familiar with that.

[woman 2] I don't know that person.

There is nobody here named James Abreu.

[line ringing]

-[man] Daryl.

-I'm looking for a James Abreu.

Yeah, hold on. Jimmy, phone call.

[James Abreu] Hello?

-James Abreu?

-Yes.

Hi, my name is Victoria Cruz.

I'm working for the Anti-Violence Project.

I'm working on a reopened case

on the Marsha P. Johnson case

that was... She was found in 1992

by Christopher Street Pier.

Right.

Can I meet with you

in reference to this particular case?

Definitely not.

Because?

Because I'm retired from the NYPD

and you're calling me at work.

Can we meet outside of your job?

No, definitely not.

I don't want to meet

in regards to anything.

[line disconnects]

He didn't want to tell me

anything about the case.

He doesn't wanna look back.

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