Submergence Page #3

If you were with me

in a submersible,

that's like

a deep-sea submarine...

Is it yellow?

- Of course it is.

- Excellent.

If you were with me

in one of those,

you would have spent

two hours at least,

in the blackness you're

in now, to get down to...

You can open your eyes.

The hadopelagic,

which is what interests me.

Hadal from the Greek "Hades",

meaning unseen.

Doesn't it mean hell?

To some.

This is the other world

in our world.

It's just miles and

miles of blackness?

No one knows much

about the mantle.

They think it has no life,

and therefore no

possibility of reanimation,

and is so without

scientific interest.

I disagree.

It needs to be explored.

What? Excuse me,

what exactly is it that you do?

I... I study...

I collect samples,

from what I think is...

the living bit

of the mantle.

The first few kilometers

underlying the Hadal deep.

I believe that all life and...

regeneration in our world

belongs to it.

We refuse to value what's

down there because it's dark.

We want to forget there

is darkness in our world, and...

and to be on a beach

is to be lucky.

- [LAUGHING]

- We don't educate ourselves.

Our world is

firstly about power,

it's only secondly

about education.

[JAMES CLEARS THROAT]

- [LAUGHING]

- What?

No, don't worry about me,

just you carry on.

No, I'm just writing down

what you just said

- about power and education.

- Mm-hmm.

- Oh, wow, okay.

- I like it.

I'm actually going down on one of those

submersibles in a couple of weeks.

I've waited years

for this opportunity.

Come on, congratulations.

[LAUGHING]

- [GLASSES CLINK]

- Thank you.

What do you do?

I consult on water

projects in Africa, actually.

Hey, we've got water in common.

- You work for charity?

- The British government.

You live in Africa?

Nairobi.

Do you like it?

I do, most of the time.

Nairobi gets a bit

treacherous sometimes.

People say it's like

an African river,

you can't see into it,

you don't know where

the crocodiles are,

and you can't see the

rapids coming at you.

But, I tell you,

it's got its own...

luster.

I kinda miss it,

when I'm away too long.

Wonderful place.

I have a pool.

JAMES:
So, you're saying that...

descending to

the bottom of the ocean,

makes us challenge our sense

of self and where we came from?

And that we are not

interested in your work,

because we don't want to have

come from the scum in the ocean?

It kind of makes sense to me.

- Does it?

- Yeah.

DANI:
It's caused people

to fight over...

When I drop everything...

I wanna make a case for my

theory on life down there.

And having been down there

it gets more complicated.

What counts the most is

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