Standard Operating Procedure Page #3

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which never occurred.

I was there, and I

know it didn't happen.

It may have been unorthodox,

but he came out of the cell

and he didn't hurt anybody,

and he didn't get hurt.

Graner had the camera

in his cargo pocket.

And he asked me and Ambuhl

to come downstairs with him.

When he opened

the door,

Gus was in there,

he was naked.

He didn't want to stand up,

so that's why he brought

the tie-down strap.

So he put it around his neck.

So he's gonna make him crawl out.

And I guess he got about

halfway out of the door.

Graner told me to hold onto the

end of the tie-down strap, so I did.

I just grabbed it.

You can see the slack on it.

People said that

I dragged him,

but I never did.

(CAMERA WHIRRING)

Graner took three

pictures back-to-back.

You can see Megan

on the side standing.

He would've never had me standing

next to Gus if the camera wasn't there.

I'm a 95 to 100 pound

female, short female, at that,

holding a strap that's attached

to his neck. I'm dominating him.

Maybe that's what

Graner was going for.

Maybe it was for documentation,

maybe it was for his own amusement.

I don't know. I don't know

what was going through his head.

But he took it.

In all the years

as a cop,

I'd say over half of

all my cases were solved

because the criminal

did something stupid.

Taking photographs of these things

is that one something stupid.

BRENT PACK:

They gave me 12 CDs

and said, "There's thousands

of pictures from Abu Ghraib.

"We want you to find

all of them that depict

possible prisoner abuse

"or people that were in

the area at the time

that the abuse was occurring.

"And we need to know exactly

when the pictures were taken."

The pictures spoke

a thousand words,

but unless you know what day

and time they're talking,

you wouldn't know

what the story was.

I started lining pictures

up based on subject matter.

Put these on a time line

so that the jury could see

when did the incident

begin and when did it end.

How much time elapsed in

between these photographs.

How much actual effort

did these people put into what

they were doing to the prisoners.

Who else was there in the room

at the time that it occurred?

How could all this go on

without anybody noticing it?

When you look at this whole case

as one great, big media event,

you kind of lose focus.

These pictures actually depict

several separate incidents

of possible abuse or possible

standard operating procedure.

All you could do is present

what you know to be factual.

You can't bring in emotion

or politics into the court.

LYNNDIE ENGLAND:
When I was

in the brig,

every single woman there was

in that brig because of a man.

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