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- It's nice.

- And, next door?

- His colleague. Mr... Pahad.

Put Professor Esterhuyse

next to Mbeki.

We need to mix them up. Maximise

the opportunity for chance meetings.

- Right.

- Good. Thank you.

'Welcome' seems a meagre word

for such an occasion.

But, it is no less sincere,

all the same.

Now, as you can see from

the agenda I drew up...

we have a lot of ground to cover.

So, if we're to get through it

I think it is essential that...

With respect, Mr Young.

Since you are not South African,

it's not your agenda.

It's ours.

And, with respect, Mr Mbeki...

I must remind you that the agenda

was agreed by both sides in advance.

Item one.

The ANC perspective.

We know that you Afrikaners have

paid in blood for your country.

As, we have.

We know too, that it was from your

suffering...

that a system of apartheid

was incubated.

The need to dominate is often

a consequence of survival.

Our problem is, as exiles, we are...

outside the political system.

So, we are not in a position to offer

any concessions or compromises...

in any potential negotiations with

the government.

If you can't offer concessions,

what can you offer?

All we can do is set out our

stall of demands.

The release of Nelson Mandela

and all political prisoners.

The unbanning of all proscribed

political organisations.

Only then can a negotiated transition

to majority rule take place.

So, then, we can take it that there

is no truth in the rumour...

that the ANC hopes Mandela will

die in prison?

Thus elevating him to the status

of martyr.

You don't think he's achieved

that status already?

That rumour, along with most

information about us...

is based on disinformation.

And, the riots and bloodshed

if he does get released?

Can you guarantee you can control

your guerrilla extremists?

Controlling Mrs Mandela and her

necklacing would be a start.

As would controlling the brutality

of your security police.

Can you guarantee that?

There's talk in Pretoria that Botha

is considering...

forming a new body to be

affiliated to Parliament...

where black representatives can join

the coloured and Indian delegates...

as a prelude to power sharing.

Can we ask your opinion on such

a proposal?

What is yours?

I'm just here on a fact-finding

mission, Mr Mbeki.

Your opinion is the issue.

My understanding is we are not here

to discuss reforming Apartheid.

Or, disguising it under some new

administrative structure.

We're here to talk about how

to abolish it.

What we are seeking, is a prelude

to majority rule.

Power sharing, is not an option.

Ah, Professor.

Okay. Good, good.

Gentlemen, please. Good.

Perhaps, if you outline the specific

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