Bowling for Columbine Page #3

who's the first person you call?

Most people will call the police

because they have guns.

Cut out the middleman.

Take care of your own family yourself.

If you're not going to protect your family,

who is?

We're not racist, we're not extremist,

we're not fundamentalist.

We're not terrorists or militants

or other such nonsense.

- We're citizens.

- We're concerned citizens.

We have a desire to fulfill

our responsibilities and duties as Americans.

And armed citizenry is part of that.

That's why I wish again

That I was in Michigan down on the farm...

- What do you grow here?

- Right now there's tofu beans, soya beans.

- Tofu soya beans.

- You're a tofu farmer?

Yeah, yeah. Food farmer. I'm a food farmer.

I grow food for people to eat.

No herbicides, no pesticides on that stuff.

- Right. All natural.

- Right.

- Yeah, better.

- Certified organic.

Uh-huh. Healthier.

- Yeah.

- Basically.

This is James Nichols,

brother of Terry Nichols.

James graduated from high school

the same year I did in the district next to mine.

On this farm in Decker, Michigan,

McVeigh and the Nichols brothers

made practice bombs before Oklahoma City.

Terry and James were both arrested

in connection to the bombing.

US attorneys formally linked

the Nichols brothers of Michigan

with Oklahoma bomb suspect

Timothy McVeigh.

Officials charged James, who was

at the hearing, and Terry, who was not,

with conspiring to make and possess

small bombs.

Terry was convicted

and received a life sentence.

Timothy McVeigh was executed.

But the feds didn't have the goods on James,

so the charges were dropped.

I'm just glad... I'm just glad to be out and free

so I can get on with my life.

Did Timothy McVeigh ever stay here?

Yes, yes. He stayed here several times.

For the longest period,

about three months or so.

- But he was a nice guy.

- Decent guy?

Oh, yeah.

- So they didn't find anything on this farm?

- As to what?

- Bomb-making material?

- Any explosives.

Um, yeah, blasting caps,

dynamite blasting caps.

Dynamite fuse, black powder, you know,

for muzzle-loaders.

Sure. Diesel fuel, fertilizer.

But that is normal farm stuff.

That is no way connected any way whatsoever

to the Oklahoma City bombing or bomb-making.

Them people,

law enforcement if you wanna call 'em that,

were here, and they were

shaking in their shoes.

- Physically shaking, scared to death.

- Of?

They thought this was gonna be another Waco.

Because certain people...

...namely my ex-wife and other people,

said I'm a radical, I'm a wild man.

I got a gun under every arm, down every leg,

in every shoe, every corner of the house.

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