DEFCON: The Documentary Page #3

Can everyone hear me, over

the reports, over the berm?

All firearms are always what? Loaded!

They are always loaded!

Nothing is ever an unloaded firearm.

You always point the firearm where?

Where? In a safe direction.

In a safe direction.

Yes. The key point being, not just being

what is your target, but what is beyond it!

The hacker community, you can never put a single hat

on anybody, but there's a libertarian undercurrent to

a lot of our membership, so being able to treat

guns as, well, that's this piece of equipment

if you use it the right way, it's great.

It percolates through most minds.

So, you get the occasional raised eyebrow, but

half the time that's the person who's, like,

"I'm gonna go see exactly what you think is so

fun," and they're out there shooting a cannon, or

an automatic rifle, and they

say, "Boy, I get this."

I think it was the year when it was at the Aladdin,

and we'd forgotten to sort of clean up our

room, or we didn't think the maid was gonna show up as early as

they did, and we had gone off to breakfast, and we came back

and the maid had been in the room, and cleaned

the room, and organized all of the drugs!

So there's a little pile of acid, and a little

pile of ecstacy, and some other pills, and they're

in nice, neat little piles, and everybody's like,

"Well, I guess things are different in Las Vegas."

You've got to put the

convention in a 24 hour city.

You know, it's got to be like a New York,

or Vegas, or maybe a San Francisco, because

hackers get bored, and there's got to be something for them to do. And I

saw what happened when you had a lot of bored hackers running around.

You know, a lot of activities

in the computer underground

would happen after midnight. That's

just the way it is. So, you know,

the fact that people can move around,

and not be noticed as much being

a group moving around at midnight,

that kind of added to the appeal.

I'm big on privacy. Nevada still

respects people's personal privacy.

You know, your hotel room is

considered your domicile.

It sounded fun... you know, just a bunch

of computer people, it just seemed like

my group was in Vegas and it sounded

like a really, really fun time.

So, that, you know, whole

underworld connotation of it all,

was very attractive to me.

So I feel like there's gonna be a stream of people really dedicated,

like, "We're gonna be first! We're gonna be first in line!"

I wanna make sure I get a badge. That was my biggest concern since

my first DEF CON, and I wanna make sure I walk away with a badge.

We're all DEF CON virgins, we gotta pop

that DEF CON cherry. Get those badges!

How many hours do you have

before you get your badges?

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