Good Ol' Freda Page #4

big in those days,

and being as big

as Cliff Richard,

that was as far

as my vision went.

Everything was new, nobody knew

what was going to happen.

People who ever

say to you, "We knew

they were going

to be a success,"

they're lying

through their teeth.

Nobody knew it was going to be

the world phenomenon that it became.

I got to know Brian Epstein

through The Beatles.

I was going to see The Beatles

all the time,

and then Brian Epstein

started to come to see them

and that's how we

became friendly.

Everybody in

Liverpool knew who he was,

because he was manager of NEMS Ltd.,

the biggest record shop in

the north of England.

I do remember it was by

St. Barnabas's Hall in Penny Lane,

it was a Saturday night,

I walked in,

I just know Eppy

coming up to me,

and he then told me that he

was signing The Beatles

and he was starting his own firm

and he needed a secretary.

Then he said, did I want to

come and work for them,

and I said "Oh, go on then. "

I just remember saying, "Oh go on then. "

And I was so excited because

I was starting my dream job,

working for The Beatles.

I think what Brian Epstein

saw was somebody who was a fan

without being

an over-the-top fanatic.

I would call her

more of an admirer;

she appreciated The Beatles,

and that fitted perfectly, I mean,

Freda was there on the scene

and ready to take over.

We had a lot of

respect for Brian,

obviously, we thought he was

really posh, you know,

we were all Liverpool screw-offs really,

but Brian was very posh,

and for him to choose Freda

to be the secretary,

we thought "Hey, wow,

she must have something,"

you know,

he could have picked anybody.

That's when I

had to tell home,

'cos I didn't want to tell home,

'cos I just knew the reaction.

My mother died when I was eighteen months,

and she died of cancer.

I had a good

relationship with my father,

but also he was very protective towards me

because I was his only child.

I was 17, so I managed to

pluck up the courage

this particular

night at tea time,

and I just said casually

"I'm starting a new job on Monday. "

And I do remember

him saying "Has it got

anything to do

with The Beatles?"

and I just blanked it,

I must have turned it back

'cos I know I didn't lie,

but I didn't answer the question,

and all I remember was the teapot

going down with a big slam.

We used to call him

Daddy Eppy;

he was Brian Epstein's father,

and it was his business.

We were on the top

floor of his shop.

The first floor was

what we used to call

the "white goods":

it was televisions

and washing machines

and things like that,

and then on the second floor,

that was Brian Epstein's office,

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