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[Debra Winger] In the town of
Konya, in central Turkey...
in the middle of the 13th century...
Jalal ad-Din Rumi...
and spiritual friend.
In his grief he took hold of a column
and began turning.
discovered in the west.
He is in fact the best selling poet
"There is light and wine, and sweethearts
in the pomegranate flowers."
"If you do not come, these do not matter."
"If you do come, these do not matter."
Rumi was born September 30th, 1207 near
which was then part of the Persian Empire.
When Rumi was still a child...
armies of Genghis Khan.
After years of travel, they settled
in Konya Turkey...
an important stop on the silk road and a
meeting point of many cultures.
Islamic, Judeo/Christian, Hindu
Sufi learning community.
The Sufis are an ancient
And according to many Sufis...
in all religions.
in the history of religion.
They are the mystics of Islam.
And as the mystics of Islam, the Sufis...
we can connect with because, they're
talking about these...
wonderful, sublime truths...
which have a way of piercing...
directly into the human heart,
wherever it is.
The Sufi's used to walk,
you know, down several roads...
visiting with the Christians, visiting
visiting in all of the great religions, really.
I mean that's part of the nature of
this kind of fluid imagination.
it even slips by.
way of stunning imagery.
deep, human well.
[Debra Winger] Upon his father's
Rumi became the head of the
His life seems to have been a fairly
normal one for a religious scholar...
Teaching, meditating, helping the
Until the late fall of 1244 when he
met the stranger.
Rumi's genius was triggered...
An encounter with this mysterious
figure, Shams of Tabriz.
Those kind of people. Like Thoreau
magnified five times.
The connection between
Shams and Rumi is...
And what we nowadays call mentoring.
what people mean...
when they mean to learn from someone.
Because it means to almost, what seemed
to happen was a sudden, knowing...
One can see here in Shams
an older man...
who is outside the orthodox
deeply embedded in that orthodox
And then there's a kind of explosion.
What Rumi says, is
that he was raw...
then he got cooked, and then he
And that means when his heart...
melted through his love for Shams,
to understand what he was talking
And he took Rumi's
book knowledge and says...
he said now you have to live what
you've been reading about.
Pushed all his books into the fountain.
That's one story of how they met.
And Rumi and he went off into this
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