The Sunshine Makers Page #2

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But I still wanted

to know the secrets of how

to produce very fine, pure LSD.

I started making

LSD back in late 1966.

Tim

came over to my house

sometime in the fall of 1967.

He told me that he'd

been manufacturing LSD.

Billy's

a very charming guy.

He was a patron

of the psychedelic movement,

and also a wealthy man.

That seemed like

a pretty good recipe.

Sand expressed

an interest in meeting.

I was

introduced to Nick Sand.

He struck me as being

ambitious, energetic.

I said, I would really love it

if you could teach me

to make LSD.

Tim and I decided that

the best way to discuss this

was to take an acid trip

together.

He took a whacking

dose of about 75 mics,

and I probably took more.

I told him that

I wanted to turn on the world,

and that I thought making 200 kilos

of acid would be about right.

And that ideally we

should give it away.

You know, I

thought, well that's fine.

You can give yours

away for free.

I'm not giving

mine away for free.

He's a very, very thrifty

distended Scotsman.

His comfort level

was a lot higher than mine.

He's way cheaper than I am.

And then finally I said,

"OK, come to California."

We'll work together.

I was going

to leave for California.

And I had a feeling I needed a

woman to balance my energy out.

I used to up to Millbrook

for a number of reasons.

I was kind of a horny guy,

and psychedelic chicks,

that could function on my

level were rare.

And there were a whole

bunch of them up there.

And Jill was there.

I stayed up there

working as Billie Hitchcock's

governess for his stepchildren.

I was, at that time had moved

into one of the tower rooms.

Nick just appeared

in the morning,

popped out of the closet.

And just came and got in bed.

And we turned onto LSD.

And she

was very, very beautiful.

I like thin chicks.

I was in awe

of his energy

and I really wanted to...

Staying in bed

Yeah. I mean, Nicky likes

to make love a lot, you know.

So that is important to him.

But it's almost utilitarian.

We're going to get

in trouble here.

And I said,

you got to come to California

with me because I'm going

to need someone to help me.

It wasn't so much

that Nicky was charming.

It was that Nicky knew

where he was going.

He had a strong

sense of his mission.

Those were the things

that made him attractive.

Nick thought that

he could change...

consciousness of large

numbers of people,

by making psychedelic drugs.

He thought that that

needed to happen.

We all did.

And finally,

she just decided to go with me.

And we came to the ranch

here as partners.

And she still maintains

an interest in the ranch.

Unfortunately I don't.

It was stolen from me

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