Shoah Page #2
[ Interpreter #1, In French]
Yes, there are lots of animals of all kinds.
[ Lanzmann ]
[ Interpreter #1 Speaking Polish]
[ Man Replies]
Only man hunting.
JAN PIWONSKI:
But they didn't know the area.
At times people heard explosions
in the minefield.
Sometimes they'd find a deer
and sometimes a poor Jew
who tried to escape.
That's the charm of our forests:
silence and beauty.
[ Piwonski Continues]
But it wasn't always so silent here.
There was a time
when it was full of screams
and gunshots,
of dogs' barking.
[ Piwonski Continues]
And that period especially
is engraved on the minds of the people
who lived here then.
[ Piwonski Continues]
After the revolt, the Germans
decided to liquidate the camp,
and early in the winter of 1943,
they planted pines
that were three or four years old
to camouflage all the traces.
That screen of trees?
- Tak.
- Yes.
[ Lanzmann ]
That's where the mass graves were?
[ Interpreter #1 Speaking Polish]
- Tak.
- Oui.
[ Piwonski Continues]
When he first came here in 1944,
you couldn't guess
what had happened here,
[ Lanzmann ] How did he react,
the first time he unloaded corpses,
when the gas van doors were opened?
[ Interpreter #2 Speaking Yiddish ]
What could he do? He cried.
The 3rd day,
he saw his wife and children.
He placed his wife
in the grave and asked to be killed.
The Germans said
that he wouldn't be killed yet.
[ Lanzmann ]
Was the weather very cold?
[ Interpreter #2 Speaking Yiddish]
[ Podchlebnik Replies ]
It was in the winter of 1942,
in early January.
[ Lanzmann ] At that time,
the bodies weren't burned, just buried?
[ Interpreter #2 Speaking Yiddish]
[ Podchlebnik Replies ]
No, they were buried,
and each row was covered with dirt.
They weren't being burned yet.
There were around four or five layers.
The ditches were funnel-shaped.
[ Podchlebnik Continues]
They dumped the bodies
in these ditches,
and they had to lay them out
like herrings, head to foot.
[ Lanzmann ] So it was they who dug up
and burned all the Jews of Vilna?
- [ Podchlebnik Replies]
- Yes.
[ Man Speaking Hebrew]
[ Interpreter #3, In French]
we began digging up the bodies.
[ Man Continues]
When the last mass grave was opened,
I recognized my whole family.
[ Lanzmann, In French]
Whom in his family did he recognize?
[ Interpreter #3 Speaking Hebrew]
Morn and my sisters.
They were all in there.
[ Lanzmann]
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