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years. And then it needs

to be renewed every five years.

And when I leave this job

my clearance will expire.

Nobody ever thinks

about speaking out

against the government

who's worked for them

and hasn't considered what

the possible consequences are.

But I don't dwell on them

because I don't... I don't want

it to affect my voice.

I don't want it to silence my

words, or to curtail my speech.

I generally feel like

they don't... they being

the government, they being

the Justice Department...

They shouldn't hold

that power over me.

This ominous threat that

they'll go after me

in the same way that they've

gone after so many people.

Especially since 9/11.

I didn't find out what I was

going to be doing until I

made it to Fort

Bragg, for the Joint

Special Operations Command.

At the time I didn't

really realize

the significance or importance

of organization itself.

I... I'd simply been told by

some people in the military,

oh they're the,

you know, kind of

like the elite

special ops people

that you hear about in

video games, and in movies.

And that they were actually

responsible for the killing

of Osama bin Laden.

So I would find targets

using signals intelligence,

you know the... I was

stationed at Fort Meade, which

is where NSA is headquartered.

I had a clearance for NSA.

I was so... you know. And

NSA is the Intelligence

Directorate which handles

signals intelligence.

So naturally I would

be put into a position,

you know, overseas working in a

signals intelligence capacity.

And using the technology on

the drone through the means

of signals intelligence... Sorry,

it's really, really tough.

It's really tough.

And I know it's core

and it's central to what

I was doing and, like, my

whole reason for speaking here,

so... but I'm also very unaware

of where that line is drawn.

And... so I have to be

very- extraordinarily

cautious about what I can

and can't say on camera.

The... though it's

something so simple

and so benign that you wouldn't

imagine it were even of, you

know, it would even of concern

there's still- there's no...

There's no doubt in my mind

that if I said the wrong thing

or give away the wrong kind of

information about what I was

doing that I wouldn't...

That I would be safe

from prosecution of any kind.

LISA:
When I first

got into the military,

I mean, I was thinking

it was kind of a win-win.

It was a force for

good in the world.

I could actually help

people, I could go places.

I could learn things.

There was nothing

negative about it

at the time, that

was in my thinking

or in my consciousness.

And you know, I

thought I was gonna

be on the right side

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