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Yeah, you think you're something,

But you're no good for me

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

F*** off, f*** off

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Bollocks, bollocks

You know, these really dreadful...

dreadful, dreadful songs.

No good

Na na na na na na na na, no good

I get on the phone.

I expected some sort of oafish punk type...

And it was very mild-mannered,

very chatty Ian.

The first gig that I had with them

was the last night at the Electric Circus.

The Electric Circus is one of the places that we...

hired from bemused hippies on their quiet night

to put on, uh, emerging punk rock.

Can you explain to me

why you come to the Electric Circus?

Because it's the best place

where they put punk rock bands on.

Because it's got a great atmosphere.

Looks like he just come out of Risley

for the day, don't it?

He won't go see it.

Bottles from plastic pumps.

I want you to do something for me.

Because look at me now,

I'm nothing.

That's what punk is...

You can start going and really enjoy yourself,

you know, jump about a bit, let yourself go.

Why not?

It became a punk club, and... and...

and absolutely a very important part

of the whole landscape.

And then suddenly,

we were saying good-bye to it

in an emotional weekend do,

that was recorded rather pitifully by Virgin Records.

And, yeah,

The Warsaw, and the, um,

"Remember Rudolph Hess" thing,

and all that kind of nonsense.

At the time when any of that happened,

those of us within it had not a moment's doubt

that it was anything dicey.

You know, it just...

you just sort of trusted,

somehow, the instincts of locals

that it was not dicey.

Can't buy everything, that's true

Only one thing wrong with that

What it don't buy I don't use

Some guy at work gave me a couple of books.

One was called House of Dolls,

and I knew it was about the Nazis,

but I didn't read it.

And I just flipped through the pages.

It was the brothel that soldiers went to.

And I thought,

"Well, it's pretty bad taste,

but it's quite punk."

And everyone I told the name to went,

"That's a great name."

It sounds too neat and tidy,

but it almost seems to be

that it all came when they had the name.

It was like Roxy Music or Velvet Underground.

You know, you knew instantly

from the moment it happened,

it was one of those names.

At that stage,

when we made our first record,

An Ideal for Living,

we just were making this music,

and we wanted people to hear it.

And it was very much punk ethos

of do-it-yourself, independence.

Forget big labels,

just small, you know, cottage industries.

I'd actually forgotten

that Ian borrowed the money.

God, if I did it now,

my wife would kill me.

So how he got away with it then

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