Eva Hesse Page #3

invited me to go to

George Segal's farm.

DOYLE". All these

young artists are coming up

from New York to do this carnival.

And there was gonna be

a sculpture dance.

I made a sculpture

that was like a fighter plane.

And Eva, H was her

first sculpture, really,

was a very, kind of, formless thing.

Two people got in and danced.

And all these sculptures were dancing.

GOLDMAN:
They also had a happening.

H was living theater

without any script.

HONIG:
There was a dancer, Yvonne Rainer,

who was dancing on the roof of a barn.

SERRA:
Artists were interfacing with

a lot of dancers at the time.

We thought that there were

more ideas generated in dance

than being generated

by sculptors or painters.

HONIG:
Eva had constructed a tube

made of fabric that people

were to wiggle through.

H was fun.

It was artists playing

and having a good time.

HESSE'. All is well.

H's been a beautiful week.

I love Tom more every day.

DOYLE:
Her father said, "/ don't Want

you marrying anyone except a Jew."

So I converted.

I became a Jew. I mean, I went to shul,

I did the whole number.

OHARASH:
You know,

they were not interested in any religion.

But for my father,

and because of our German background,

she went along with H

and Tom went along with H.

DOYLE". Two or three friends of mine

all had never been Bar Mitzvah-ed,

so we had a Bar Mitzvah. We played

Belle Barth records, you know. (LAUGHS)

And gave each other fountain pens,

the whole stick.

Tom was a good and interesting sculptor,

just coming into his mature work

and Eva was clearly a good artist.

But there wasn't anything

unique there, yet.

But she was very ambitious

and full of youthful art energy.

DOYLE". We got a loft

on 19th and 5th Avenue.

H was a great loft.

H was a half a block long.

We rented part of H

out to Eihelyn Honig.

HONIG:
One of the mornings

that I arrived,

I told them about the fact

that I had just seen

a major exhibition at

the Sidney Janis Gallery.

It was called Pop Art.

And I said, "I think

you ought to get over there

"and take a look

and see what's going on.

"It's never gonna be the same."

LIPPARD:
Pop art, of course,

burst onto the scene

and that was a big deal.

Pop art was a sort of game changer.

SUSSMAN:
The discussions

that came up afterwards

of people for and against

H were passionate.

And, of course, Eva

always went to museums

and knew exactly what was going on.

And I have a feeling

that she might have been

more for it than Tom.

WAPNER:
She didn't have

accepted truths.

And she examined and doubted

and, um,

thought about things.

HESSE". Should I impose my

preconceived ideas on painting'?

And to what degree must I go along with

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