An Honest Liar Page #2

- Yeah, we need to spread that around.

- See, this is the one I cut for the...

'We end up spending the whole afternoon'

talking about our mutual interest about space exploration.

I remember we looked at books on telescopes and I told him I had

such a telescope at home, the Questar.

I went back to my friends and I said,

"I just met this extraordinary man, and I would like to meet him again."

We were able to go out at night with a tripod

and see the moons of Jupiter and all kinds of good things like that,

which is always very exciting to show somebody,

certainly if it's for the first time.

'I just got very excited and I said, I need to...'

I need to be with him more! HE LAUGHS

'When I first met Randi, I wasn't aware of who he was.'

OK, tomorrow, don't tell me about tomorrow...

And I was there when he won the MacArthur Award.

The gentleman announced, we are calling from the MacArthur Committee

and told me that I had won the prize,

- and I answered in my most intelligible way...

- HE BABBLES INCOHERENTLY

'Then I got a real feel

'of the kind of impact he was having culturally.

'And little by little, I started getting more and more involved

'in the investigation of paranormal activities that Randi was doing.

'And then he asked me to play the character of a fake channeller

'in a project that we end up working together.'

This woman is JZ Knight.

She's also the one they call Ramtha, a mystical male spirit,

35,000 years old, who claims to be divine.

Now, you must understand that the so-called channellers

were claiming that they could contact long-dead spirits.

Now, not a few hundred years back, no, no.

They were more ambitious than that. Tens of thousands of years ago.

Indeed!

And they would speak in funny voices like this!

God bless you, Doctor!

All right, I'll say, how are you this day of your time as you create time to exist.

They were very popular. They gave talks,

HUGE prices for the seats.

There are often so many people, the Ramtha Organisation can earn

up to 200,000 for a single appearance.

And you're my first 35,000-year-old guest.

It was such nonsense.

I can't think of that technical term... Oh, yes - bullshit.

What she definitely is is part of what is being called the New Age movement.

Lots of people believe this is something genuine

because they see something on television and think,

"My goodness, surely this journalist would have checked this stuff out."

Trauma from a past life

sometimes seems to spill over into the present.

We are conditioned to believe that things that look like

documentaries, but are not factual, must essentially be true

or it wouldn't be presented as if it were factual.

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